do Democrats want to actually win?

or do Democrats want to actually impose their political values on others? I was a bit disappointed with the minimal response I got to my previous post, and 2 of my good friends heard my griping offline and put in comments online to it.

Again, I’m oversimplifying it by focusing the question on: what does it take to win. It’s a bottom-line thinking, and perhaps some of it formed by business magazines and corporate-speak that I’m delved into in recent months. Economic preferences aside, business methodology is how things get done, how things happen. Here I sit in Starbucks, and they’ve got a system that cranks people through the lines, ringing dollars quickly and efficiently through the register, and enough warm-fuzzies to give the whole machinery an pseudo-organic feel. Sure it’d be great to go to a little mom-and-pop coffee shop where they know your name, your drink, and pseudo care about your family via small talk, but people are voting with their feet, and they’re frequenting their neighborhood Starbucks.

Marketing works b/c a majority of people still respond to it. To win an election takes a majority of votes on a per state basis, and enough to add up to an electoral college majority. You connect the dots.

As an aside, I’d name Pagitt’s new book (which was not one of the multiple choices) -> Reimagining Preaching: Beyond Speechmaking and Towards a Deep Ecclesiology

and, p.s.s., even as Pagitt rants about reimagining preaching, it still takes a compelling communicator, even if he wants to call it speaching. It’s still public speaking. Your average quality speaker is not going to make it happen. Even if Moses or Paul wrote that they felt inadequate as public speakers, that was perhaps more about their personal feelings than their actual effectiveness – they were still able to speak most compellingly, and greatly used of God’s Spirit for the Exodus and about half of the New Testament, respectively.

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  1. Natala says:

    “?The leadership of our party has a cultural disconnect,? Sosnik said. ?Our leaders ? particularly Washington, D.C.-based ? don?t really have the same life, day to day, as all those people out there in those red states. We don?t eat at the same restaurants. I don?t know how many politicians in town that are leaders of our party who voluntarily go to Applebee?s, unless it?s for work. You look at the swing voters out there, what their sporting events are, the music they listen to, the celebrities, the television programs, it?s just not what the East Coast leadership (watches) ? it?s not quite where we are.?

    “Talk about Applebee’s, we don’t even go to the Cracker Barrels and the Denny?s as well,” added Donna Brazile, who served as Al Gore’s campaign manager in 2000.”

    I found this at:

    Thought you might enjoy the articles.
    Maybe if Kerry got more “Moon over my Hammy” at Deny’s he would have had a shot.

  2. Jen Lemen says:

    okay, i’ll bite.
    i hear what you are saying, deej. it’s brutally practical. you have to get more votes to win. but that perspective is also extremely marketing driven and void of inspiration. it’s also the very thing that wearies people of politics. we might be sheep but we hate to think of ourselves that way.

    personally, i’d rather lose than dumb down the content so that middle america feels happily unchallenged and safe. to win right now that’s what you’d have to do. dumb it down. i’d rather keep losing and rally the minorty to dig deep into a more meaningful activism that over time will build true momentum. if the 18-30 year old vote had been the only one counted, kerry would have won handily.

    time is on our side, not marketing.