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		<title>By: Small Business Apps</title>
		<link>http://djchuang.com/2010/using-google-apps-without-moving-email-server/#comment-9985</link>
		<dc:creator>Small Business Apps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Apr 2010 00:43:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;using Google Apps without moving email server « djchuang.com http://bit.ly/9VnVIX #apps&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">using Google Apps without moving email server « djchuang.com <a href="http://bit.ly/9VnVIX" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/9VnVIX</a> #apps</span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Abelardo Diaz</title>
		<link>http://djchuang.com/2010/using-google-apps-without-moving-email-server/#comment-9980</link>
		<dc:creator>Abelardo Diaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2010 16:31:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;RT @djchuang: using Google Apps without moving email server http://bit.ly/8tSsYj&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">RT @djchuang: using Google Apps without moving email server <a href="http://bit.ly/8tSsYj" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/8tSsYj</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Abelardo</title>
		<link>http://djchuang.com/2010/using-google-apps-without-moving-email-server/#comment-9979</link>
		<dc:creator>Abelardo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2010 16:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think method one allow business enjoy all of Google Apps features, wich are more than Google accounts only, for example, Google Sites can use custom URL&#039;s only in Google apps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think method one allow business enjoy all of Google Apps features, wich are more than Google accounts only, for example, Google Sites can use custom URL&#8217;s only in Google apps.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Liu</title>
		<link>http://djchuang.com/2010/using-google-apps-without-moving-email-server/#comment-9609</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Liu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 00:50:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you are setting this up for an organization or small group then it makes sense to use Google Apps for Domains. There are some additional features in calendar and docs that work on a domain level, like default sharing of calendars and documents for users on the same domain.

There is also a non-profit version of Google Apps for Domains that is a similar offering to the educational version - more/cheaper storage, I think.

In addition, Premium users get access to APIs that free users don&#039;t get access to.

Google seems to roll out new features on the regular services before Google Apps - for example some of the newer features in Gmail were available on gmail.com account before they showed up in my Google Apps account.

I don&#039;t think you have to use dual delivery; I think all you have to do is just not point your domain CNAME record for mail to Google&#039;s servers, so all incoming mail will keep going to your current mail server. Not sure about email originating from Google like calendar alerts, though. They&#039;ll probably work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you are setting this up for an organization or small group then it makes sense to use Google Apps for Domains. There are some additional features in calendar and docs that work on a domain level, like default sharing of calendars and documents for users on the same domain.</p>
<p>There is also a non-profit version of Google Apps for Domains that is a similar offering to the educational version &#8211; more/cheaper storage, I think.</p>
<p>In addition, Premium users get access to APIs that free users don&#8217;t get access to.</p>
<p>Google seems to roll out new features on the regular services before Google Apps &#8211; for example some of the newer features in Gmail were available on gmail.com account before they showed up in my Google Apps account.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think you have to use dual delivery; I think all you have to do is just not point your domain CNAME record for mail to Google&#8217;s servers, so all incoming mail will keep going to your current mail server. Not sure about email originating from Google like calendar alerts, though. They&#8217;ll probably work.</p>
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		<title>By: djchuang</title>
		<link>http://djchuang.com/2010/using-google-apps-without-moving-email-server/#comment-9599</link>
		<dc:creator>djchuang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 15:55:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jason, @Larry: great insights &amp; tips! I&#039;ll look into dual delivery, although it didn&#039;t seem obvious to me b/c our email server is plain ol&#039; POP3/SMTP and not Exchange nor Lotus Notes.

I&#039;m leaning towards method #1 above, since we are looking for the collaborative features, and would like to keep email uninterrupted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jason, @Larry: great insights &#038; tips! I&#8217;ll look into dual delivery, although it didn&#8217;t seem obvious to me b/c our email server is plain ol&#8217; POP3/SMTP and not Exchange nor Lotus Notes.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m leaning towards method #1 above, since we are looking for the collaborative features, and would like to keep email uninterrupted.</p>
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		<title>By: Brent Mitchell</title>
		<link>http://djchuang.com/2010/using-google-apps-without-moving-email-server/#comment-9598</link>
		<dc:creator>Brent Mitchell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 15:30:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As Larry alluded to I would say the difference/benefit of method one is the collaboration and administrative control that it gives for the users in the domain. If your concern is only for one user I see no reason for setting up Apps for your domain if you already have e-mail hosting taken care of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Larry alluded to I would say the difference/benefit of method one is the collaboration and administrative control that it gives for the users in the domain. If your concern is only for one user I see no reason for setting up Apps for your domain if you already have e-mail hosting taken care of.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Baxter</title>
		<link>http://djchuang.com/2010/using-google-apps-without-moving-email-server/#comment-9597</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry Baxter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 14:10:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Method one uses the service &quot;Google Apps for Domains&quot; and gives you a lot of benefits such as the ability to create groups, automatically allow visibility of calendars for everyone in the domain, and/or or have visibility of individual calendar entries based on whether the user is part of the domain.

Method two doesn&#039;t use &quot;Google Apps&quot; at all - rather it uses several applications with a normal Google email account. It&#039;s far less flexible/powerful, although it avoids the setup of the Google Apps service (which isn&#039;t that bad). Google Apps for Domains really is separate from regular gmail accounts.

Jason Powell&#039;s post (and knowledge of Google Apps) are right on target. The link he has for dual-delivery setup works extremely well. That&#039;s something you would want to lookup if you were not planning to use the mail feature, as I&#039;m not completely sure of the effect of that on calendar invites. I setup Google Apps for our church and love it, though we&#039;re using it for mail as well. (Many users simply forward their mail elsewhere, which is easy to setup)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Method one uses the service &#8220;Google Apps for Domains&#8221; and gives you a lot of benefits such as the ability to create groups, automatically allow visibility of calendars for everyone in the domain, and/or or have visibility of individual calendar entries based on whether the user is part of the domain.</p>
<p>Method two doesn&#8217;t use &#8220;Google Apps&#8221; at all &#8211; rather it uses several applications with a normal Google email account. It&#8217;s far less flexible/powerful, although it avoids the setup of the Google Apps service (which isn&#8217;t that bad). Google Apps for Domains really is separate from regular gmail accounts.</p>
<p>Jason Powell&#8217;s post (and knowledge of Google Apps) are right on target. The link he has for dual-delivery setup works extremely well. That&#8217;s something you would want to lookup if you were not planning to use the mail feature, as I&#8217;m not completely sure of the effect of that on calendar invites. I setup Google Apps for our church and love it, though we&#8217;re using it for mail as well. (Many users simply forward their mail elsewhere, which is easy to setup)</p>
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		<title>By: Hash GA</title>
		<link>http://djchuang.com/2010/using-google-apps-without-moving-email-server/#comment-9590</link>
		<dc:creator>Hash GA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 08:17:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;#GA-repost: using Google Apps without moving email server « djchuang.com http://bit.ly/5VFOYQ #googleapps: using G... http://bit.ly/8nwFfk&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Small Business Apps</title>
		<link>http://djchuang.com/2010/using-google-apps-without-moving-email-server/#comment-9591</link>
		<dc:creator>Small Business Apps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 07:55:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;using Google Apps without moving email server « djchuang.com http://bit.ly/5VFOYQ #googleapps&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: RickTest</title>
		<link>http://djchuang.com/2010/using-google-apps-without-moving-email-server/#comment-9592</link>
		<dc:creator>RickTest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 07:28:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;using Google Apps without moving email server « djchuangcom http://bit.ly/6mVjUW&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: uberVU - social comments</title>
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		<dc:creator>uberVU - social comments</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 07:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Social comments and analytics for this post...&lt;/strong&gt;

This post was mentioned on Twitter by FastChurch: using Google Apps without moving email server http://bit.ly/57cGBy...</description>
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<p>This post was mentioned on Twitter by FastChurch: using Google Apps without moving email server <a href="http://bit.ly/57cGBy.." rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/57cGBy..</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Domains J</title>
		<link>http://djchuang.com/2010/using-google-apps-without-moving-email-server/#comment-9593</link>
		<dc:creator>Domains J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 07:10:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;using Google Apps without moving email server « djchuang.com http://bit.ly/5VFOYQ&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: DJ Chuang</title>
		<link>http://djchuang.com/2010/using-google-apps-without-moving-email-server/#comment-9594</link>
		<dc:creator>DJ Chuang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 06:18:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;new blog post :: using Google Apps without moving email server http://ow.ly/16nYzV&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">new blog post :: using Google Apps without moving email server <a href="http://ow.ly/16nYzV" rel="nofollow">http://ow.ly/16nYzV</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Jason Powell</title>
		<link>http://djchuang.com/2010/using-google-apps-without-moving-email-server/#comment-9584</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Powell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 04:52:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have a Google Apps account for our domain gccwired.com working along side our Exchange server with no issues.  In fact I can get my GCC email from either Exchange or gapps :-)
It&#039;s called dual-delivery setup and it&#039;s very easy to do.
http://www.google.com/support/a/bin/answer.py?hl=en&amp;answer=96855 

Hope that helps,
Jason</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have a Google Apps account for our domain gccwired.com working along side our Exchange server with no issues.  In fact I can get my GCC email from either Exchange or gapps <img src='http://djchuang.com/c/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
It&#8217;s called dual-delivery setup and it&#8217;s very easy to do.<br />
<a href="http://www.google.com/support/a/bin/answer.py?hl=en&#038;answer=96855" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.com/support/a/bin/answer.py?hl=en&#038;answer=96855</a> </p>
<p>Hope that helps,<br />
Jason</p>
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