Comments on: How to find a mentor for yourself http://djchuang.com/2009/how-to-find-a-mentor-for-yourself/ / strategist / ideator / Asian American / connector / gamechanger Thu, 24 May 2012 22:45:29 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Adam Jenkins http://djchuang.com/2009/how-to-find-a-mentor-for-yourself/#comment-9797 Adam Jenkins Fri, 26 Feb 2010 17:06:40 +0000 http://www.djchuang.com/?p=3659#comment-9797 Nathanael Flock: Could you please email me at adam.jenkins10@gmail.com - I saw your story on 700 Club. I would like to chat with you. Thank you! Adam Nathanael Flock: Could you please email me at adam.jenkins10@gmail.com – I saw your story on 700 Club. I would like to chat with you.

Thank you!
Adam

]]> By: Theresa Ip Froehlich http://djchuang.com/2009/how-to-find-a-mentor-for-yourself/#comment-9714 Theresa Ip Froehlich Tue, 09 Feb 2010 20:49:35 +0000 http://www.djchuang.com/?p=3659#comment-9714 I am delighted to see this conversation continuing. In my own experience as a brand new believer many years ago, I was the one who sought out a mentor. Having grown up in Hong Kong, I longed to have intergenerational relationships. This is true of most international students studying in the USA. To be very straightforward, the church in N Am has worked with the "segregationist" paradigm (along ethnic/racial lines and age departments)for so long that the Christ-followers here don't seem to know how to intersect intergenerationally and interculturally (at least not very well). Additionally, this is such a radically individualistic culture that for us to even talk about or desire mentoring is very counter-cultural. While mentor, guide, coach... have some overlap, in the realm of discipleship we are really talking about a discipler-disciple relationship. This could be, but doesn't have to be, an intentional relationship. In the context of discipleship, a mentor is a spiritual companion who has been farther along the road. This person doesn't have to have more education or qualification but needs to have a deeper knowledge of the LORD Jesus Christ. I became a follower of Christ after I finished grad sch and the mentor who has been most influential in my Christian walk never completed his college education. I have just recently begun mentoring two Young Life student leaders in their teen years. Our church is moving out of the departmental and programmatic approach to ministry and moving into a "small group communities" structure. I am delighted for these two opportunities to mentor others. When I meet with the student leaders, I also pull out my professional life coaching toolbox. I am delighted to see this conversation continuing. In my own experience as a brand new believer many years ago, I was the one who sought out a mentor. Having grown up in Hong Kong, I longed to have intergenerational relationships. This is true of most international students studying in the USA.
To be very straightforward, the church in N Am has worked with the “segregationist” paradigm (along ethnic/racial lines and age departments)for so long that the Christ-followers here don’t seem to know how to intersect intergenerationally and interculturally (at least not very well). Additionally, this is such a radically individualistic culture that for us to even talk about or desire mentoring is very counter-cultural.
While mentor, guide, coach… have some overlap, in the realm of discipleship we are really talking about a discipler-disciple relationship. This could be, but doesn’t have to be, an intentional relationship. In the context of discipleship, a mentor is a spiritual companion who has been farther along the road. This person doesn’t have to have more education or qualification but needs to have a deeper knowledge of the LORD Jesus Christ. I became a follower of Christ after I finished grad sch and the mentor who has been most influential in my Christian walk never completed his college education.
I have just recently begun mentoring two Young Life student leaders in their teen years. Our church is moving out of the departmental and programmatic approach to ministry and moving into a “small group communities” structure. I am delighted for these two opportunities to mentor others. When I meet with the student leaders, I also pull out my professional life coaching toolbox.

]]> By: djchuang 24/7 http://djchuang.com/2009/how-to-find-a-mentor-for-yourself/#comment-9483 djchuang 24/7 Tue, 05 Jan 2010 16:31:39 +0000 http://www.djchuang.com/?p=3659#comment-9483 <span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">@kkcoolj yes, I've heard of that mentoring project.. interviewed @kylelreed about it http://bit.ly/70HRoI</span></span> @kkcoolj yes, I've heard of that mentoring project.. interviewed @kylelreed about it http://bit.ly/70HRoI

]]> By: What is mentoring anyways? « djchuang.com http://djchuang.com/2009/how-to-find-a-mentor-for-yourself/#comment-9457 What is mentoring anyways? « djchuang.com Fri, 01 Jan 2010 19:55:08 +0000 http://www.djchuang.com/?p=3659#comment-9457 [...] a disconnect where a person declined a request to be a mentor. Maybe that’s (1 reason) why it’s hard to find a mentor. To contrast, my coaching friend Kirk describes mentoring as “someone who has resources to [...] [...] a disconnect where a person declined a request to be a mentor. Maybe that’s (1 reason) why it’s hard to find a mentor. To contrast, my coaching friend Kirk describes mentoring as “someone who has resources to [...]

]]> By: William Woo http://djchuang.com/2009/how-to-find-a-mentor-for-yourself/#comment-9278 William Woo Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:52:23 +0000 http://www.djchuang.com/?p=3659#comment-9278 I just quickly perused some of these comments and have not been able to watch the interview, but I wanted to add some two cents in. I met a man at First Bapt. Euless who is attempting to write a book on discipleship for the church using principles from Campus Crusade. They have a mentoring ministry, where I believe he trains couples to mentor other couples. If churches return to true discipleship and not just doing lessons in a book but showing people how to be like Christ. The problem is that in these relationships, the catch word is accountability. You really have to be accountable, as you mentor someone let's say on doing a Quiet Time, -ARe you doing a quiet time yourself? I think that lack of accountability or rather one does not want to be accountable accounts for a lack of mentoring. Back in the day when Vox Veniae was Liquid, they asked for professional mentors. I was a public school teacher and I guess there wasn't a young man in education for me to mentor. Incidentally Southwestern Bapt. Theol. Sem (where I am attending) is planning to have the first Chair of Discipleship. The MDiv program has been retooled and added to the curriculum is a semester on Mentoring and one semester on one on one discipling. (taking out-field experience) but these courses and other practicums has the student seeking field experience in these other venues. I just quickly perused some of these comments and have not been able to watch the interview, but I wanted to add some two cents in. I met a man at First Bapt. Euless who is attempting to write a book on discipleship for the church using principles from Campus Crusade. They have a mentoring ministry, where I believe he trains couples to mentor other couples.

If churches return to true discipleship and not just doing lessons in a book but showing people how to be like Christ. The problem is that in these relationships, the catch word is accountability. You really have to be accountable, as you mentor someone let’s say on doing a Quiet Time, -ARe you doing a quiet time yourself?

I think that lack of accountability or rather one does not want to be accountable accounts for a lack of mentoring.

Back in the day when Vox Veniae was Liquid, they asked for professional mentors. I was a public school teacher and I guess there wasn’t a young man in education for me to mentor.

Incidentally Southwestern Bapt. Theol. Sem (where I am attending) is planning to have the first Chair of Discipleship. The MDiv program has been retooled and added to the curriculum is a semester on Mentoring and one semester on one on one discipling. (taking out-field experience) but these courses and other practicums has the student seeking field experience in these other venues.

]]> By: Terrace Crawford http://djchuang.com/2009/how-to-find-a-mentor-for-yourself/#comment-9239 Terrace Crawford Wed, 09 Dec 2009 04:00:19 +0000 http://www.djchuang.com/?p=3659#comment-9239 Thanks for sharing this DJ. I think mentoring is so important too. I am currently a part of a mentoring team and encourage others to mentor. I also try to incorporate this theme quite a bit into my blog, which is why I originally titled it "Life on Life." Great to see someone like Kyle helping sound the alarm over this need. BTW, thanks for turning me on to Wetoku. What a great tool. --Terrace Crawford www.terracecrawford.com www.twitter.com/terracecrawford Thanks for sharing this DJ. I think mentoring is so important too. I am currently a part of a mentoring team and encourage others to mentor. I also try to incorporate this theme quite a bit into my blog, which is why I originally titled it “Life on Life.”

Great to see someone like Kyle helping sound the alarm over this need.

BTW, thanks for turning me on to Wetoku. What a great tool.

–Terrace Crawford
http://www.terracecrawford.com
http://www.twitter.com/terracecrawford

]]> By: Kyle Reed http://djchuang.com/2009/how-to-find-a-mentor-for-yourself/#comment-9174 Kyle Reed Fri, 04 Dec 2009 18:58:54 +0000 http://www.djchuang.com/?p=3659#comment-9174 @paulturner Paul you are right, leadership seams to be sometimes a upstream battle. But I think that it is still a necessary thing to do and to let others see that battle as well assist, support, and be apart of. check out http://mentormeproject.com to get some more info @paulturner

Paul you are right, leadership seams to be sometimes a upstream battle.
But I think that it is still a necessary thing to do and to let others see that battle as well assist, support, and be apart of.

check out http://mentormeproject.com to get some more info

]]> By: Paul Turner http://djchuang.com/2009/how-to-find-a-mentor-for-yourself/#comment-9172 Paul Turner Fri, 04 Dec 2009 15:53:05 +0000 http://www.djchuang.com/?p=3659#comment-9172 I think leaders are so busy paddling to stay above water (keep their place or popularity) they do not have time to give swimming lessons. I am 41 and have searched for mentors all my life. May of the men I asked either did not know how to pass on what they knew or wanted to turn me into someone I did not want to be i.e. them. I wanted my gifts and talents used for the glory of God not the glory of them. I have been in ministry over 20 years focusing mainly on youth and have done my best to mentor other young ministers. Let me know what I can do Kyle or DJ Paul Turner @paulturnertoo (twitter) www.facebook.com/paulwturner I think leaders are so busy paddling to stay above water (keep their place or popularity) they do not have time to give swimming lessons. I am 41 and have searched for mentors all my life. May of the men I asked either did not know how to pass on what they knew or wanted to turn me into someone I did not want to be i.e. them. I wanted my gifts and talents used for the glory of God not the glory of them.

I have been in ministry over 20 years focusing mainly on youth and have done my best to mentor other young ministers. Let me know what I can do Kyle or DJ

Paul Turner

@paulturnertoo (twitter)

http://www.facebook.com/paulwturner

]]> By: PostRank – Church http://djchuang.com/2009/how-to-find-a-mentor-for-yourself/#comment-9064 PostRank – Church Sat, 28 Nov 2009 04:19:45 +0000 http://www.djchuang.com/?p=3659#comment-9064 <span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">How to find a mentor for yourself http://bit.ly/6gP4Ct #postrank #church</span></span> How to find a mentor for yourself http://bit.ly/6gP4Ct #postrank #church

]]> By: Tom Roepke http://djchuang.com/2009/how-to-find-a-mentor-for-yourself/#comment-9060 Tom Roepke Fri, 27 Nov 2009 15:42:27 +0000 http://www.djchuang.com/?p=3659#comment-9060 <span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">RT @djchuang: How to find a mentor for yourself « djchuang.com http://bit.ly/7WMk41</span></span> RT @djchuang: How to find a mentor for yourself « djchuang.com http://bit.ly/7WMk41

]]> By: tom roepke http://djchuang.com/2009/how-to-find-a-mentor-for-yourself/#comment-9059 tom roepke Fri, 27 Nov 2009 15:41:40 +0000 http://www.djchuang.com/?p=3659#comment-9059 hey kyle and dj. this is an interesting conversation. i think the core issue is really located in the dysfunction of the family. its suggested that the origin of mentoring came from ancient greece when a certain general was headed off to war and he was looking for someone to guide his son into manhood. that someone's name was "mentor". the point being that "mentoring" and learning about life comes from our spiritual communities rightly understood as healthy families join together. isn't the real problem (and the opportunity) to discover what community should look like in the local church? a living out of Deut 6? (the current discussion around "thinking orange" from reggie joiner -dj you should really like that!) http://www.theorangeconference.com/speakers.php. currently i'm mentoring via social media and the phone an incredible 2nd year youth pastor. our weekly meetups has developed into a rich and encouraging friendship. but it can't replace the context of the conversation i had on wed with one of my student leaders as we sat face to face in our youth space talking about the weight of living the Christian life. i'm grateful for your heart and passion on this kyle. donald milller is pushing hard on this too. we may have lost the argument cultural, but any restoration has to start in the family where together we join in community in a local church to do life and mission. just some ramblings... hey kyle and dj. this is an interesting conversation. i think the core issue is really located in the dysfunction of the family. its suggested that the origin of mentoring came from ancient greece when a certain general was headed off to war and he was looking for someone to guide his son into manhood. that someone’s name was “mentor”. the point being that “mentoring” and learning about life comes from our spiritual communities rightly understood as healthy families join together.

isn’t the real problem (and the opportunity) to discover what community should look like in the local church? a living out of Deut 6? (the current discussion around “thinking orange” from reggie joiner -dj you should really like that!) http://www.theorangeconference.com/speakers.php.

currently i’m mentoring via social media and the phone an incredible 2nd year youth pastor. our weekly meetups has developed into a rich and encouraging friendship. but it can’t replace the context of the conversation i had on wed with one of my student leaders as we sat face to face in our youth space talking about the weight of living the Christian life.

i’m grateful for your heart and passion on this kyle. donald milller is pushing hard on this too. we may have lost the argument cultural, but any restoration has to start in the family where together we join in community in a local church to do life and mission.

just some ramblings…

]]> By: Nathanael Flock http://djchuang.com/2009/how-to-find-a-mentor-for-yourself/#comment-9058 Nathanael Flock Fri, 27 Nov 2009 14:02:51 +0000 http://www.djchuang.com/?p=3659#comment-9058 Perhaps the motivation of some are self-serving, but I believe that to be the minority. It is probably more selfishness, which is totally different. Self-serving is pride and idolatry fed by unhealthy relationships. Selfishness is brought on by continual self-awareness from unresolved heart issues. I don't think there is anything wrong with seasons of selfishness - it is part of growth. We have to wrestle with God before we can step into His promises. Maturity doesn't happen overnight, and it definitely doesn't happen by ignoring wounds and insecurities that lurk in the heart. Those seasons of introspection are anything but "self-less"! Kyle, this will definitely be something we take in prayer, and sow in tears, because it will take a move of God to fill this void in our generation. Prayer is how His government is released on the earth - and I think it is beneficial in a time when there is great lack of something important to remember He wants it released on the earth more than we do! That truth has to resonate in us or we will grow weary in prayer and in walking it out. Perhaps the motivation of some are self-serving, but I believe that to be the minority. It is probably more selfishness, which is totally different. Self-serving is pride and idolatry fed by unhealthy relationships. Selfishness is brought on by continual self-awareness from unresolved heart issues. I don’t think there is anything wrong with seasons of selfishness – it is part of growth. We have to wrestle with God before we can step into His promises. Maturity doesn’t happen overnight, and it definitely doesn’t happen by ignoring wounds and insecurities that lurk in the heart. Those seasons of introspection are anything but “self-less”!

Kyle, this will definitely be something we take in prayer, and sow in tears, because it will take a move of God to fill this void in our generation. Prayer is how His government is released on the earth – and I think it is beneficial in a time when there is great lack of something important to remember He wants it released on the earth more than we do! That truth has to resonate in us or we will grow weary in prayer and in walking it out.

]]> By: paul dzubinski http://djchuang.com/2009/how-to-find-a-mentor-for-yourself/#comment-9112 paul dzubinski Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:38:25 +0000 http://www.djchuang.com/?p=3659#comment-9112 <span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">How to find a mentor for yourself « djchuang.com - http://shar.es/aiQbK</span></span> How to find a mentor for yourself « djchuang.com – http://shar.es/aiQbK

]]> By: Kyle Reed http://djchuang.com/2009/how-to-find-a-mentor-for-yourself/#comment-8981 Kyle Reed Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:53:49 +0000 http://www.djchuang.com/?p=3659#comment-8981 Very interesting Wayne. It is interesting to see how mentors usually come from the places we least expect it. Honestly I see what you are talking about a lot. Very interesting Wayne.
It is interesting to see how mentors usually come from the places we least expect it.
Honestly I see what you are talking about a lot.

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