Comments on: Purpose Driven Network Summit and persevering faith http://djchuang.com/2008/purpose-driven-network-summit-and-persevering-faith/ / strategist / ideator / Asian American / connector / gamechanger Wed, 08 Feb 2012 16:21:54 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: God seems to use flawed people : djchuang.com http://djchuang.com/2008/purpose-driven-network-summit-and-persevering-faith/#comment-2939 God seems to use flawed people : djchuang.com Thu, 31 Jul 2008 03:30:40 +0000 http://www.djchuang.com/2008/purpose-driven-network-summit-and-persevering-faith/#comment-2939 [...] I was talking with a person who has worked with 100s and 1000s of Christian leaders. We realized that we have our flaws. Other people have flaws. Christian leaders have flaws. But wouldn’t you think that a Christian leader would be more honest about their flaws? Wouldn’t you think that person would avoid plagiarism? Wouldn’t you think that person would be above reproach? I wondered how that person avoided disillusionment and not lose faith, when some lose faith over seeing too many leaders’ lacking integrity (cf. William Lobdell). [...] [...] I was talking with a person who has worked with 100s and 1000s of Christian leaders. We realized that we have our flaws. Other people have flaws. Christian leaders have flaws. But wouldn’t you think that a Christian leader would be more honest about their flaws? Wouldn’t you think that person would avoid plagiarism? Wouldn’t you think that person would be above reproach? I wondered how that person avoided disillusionment and not lose faith, when some lose faith over seeing too many leaders’ lacking integrity (cf. William Lobdell). [...]

]]> By: Ken Fong http://djchuang.com/2008/purpose-driven-network-summit-and-persevering-faith/#comment-2256 Ken Fong Fri, 13 Jun 2008 19:43:17 +0000 http://www.djchuang.com/2008/purpose-driven-network-summit-and-persevering-faith/#comment-2256 Among the things that keeps me hanging in there as an apprentice and as a pastor of Jesus is that I simply find the greatest meaning to my existence when I embrace and emulate Jesus and his great love for me and the world. Among the things that keeps me hanging in there as an apprentice and as a pastor of Jesus is that I simply find the greatest meaning to my existence when I embrace and emulate Jesus and his great love for me and the world.

]]> By: Big John Scott http://djchuang.com/2008/purpose-driven-network-summit-and-persevering-faith/#comment-2250 Big John Scott Tue, 03 Jun 2008 21:32:02 +0000 http://www.djchuang.com/2008/purpose-driven-network-summit-and-persevering-faith/#comment-2250 Hey DJ- I read the article you mentioned.. brutal....these 2 quotes in response to the author's loss of faith jumped at me.. • “To each of us has been given a measure of faith. I pray you will hold on to yours for dear life.” • “Your sad and disappointing story leads me to conclude that your faith has never been based on the grace of Christ Jesus, but on the Harry Potter belief that God does magic.” the first person has a heart I want to have-and is the kind that can draw people like this back to the faith. the second seems like the type of person who drove him away in the first place. I guess we all have the choice to be one or the other...just as we have the choice to hold on. Hey DJ- I read the article you mentioned.. brutal….these 2 quotes in response to the author’s loss of faith jumped at me..

• “To each of us has been given a measure of faith. I pray you will hold on to yours for dear life.”

• “Your sad and disappointing story leads me to conclude that your faith has never been based on the grace of Christ Jesus, but on the Harry Potter belief that God does magic.”

the first person has a heart I want to have-and is the kind that can draw people like this back to the faith. the second seems like the type of person who drove him away in the first place. I guess we all have the choice to be one or the other…just as we have the choice to hold on.

]]> By: Bumble http://djchuang.com/2008/purpose-driven-network-summit-and-persevering-faith/#comment-2251 Bumble Mon, 02 Jun 2008 18:27:00 +0000 http://www.djchuang.com/2008/purpose-driven-network-summit-and-persevering-faith/#comment-2251 DJ, I like the John 6 verse you quoted. For years I felt like my Christian life is so miserable because I could not go back the Egypt, but I have not arrived to Canaan either. But then I rediscovered the Gospel all over again. What keep our faith is not looking at how well God's people does, but a constant look at the cross, at how much God loves His people. All else is disappointing - including myself. DJ,

I like the John 6 verse you quoted. For years I felt like my Christian life is so miserable because I could not go back the Egypt, but I have not arrived to Canaan either.

But then I rediscovered the Gospel all over again. What keep our faith is not looking at how well God’s people does, but a constant look at the cross, at how much God loves His people. All else is disappointing – including myself.

]]> By: Asian American Christian http://djchuang.com/2008/purpose-driven-network-summit-and-persevering-faith/#comment-2253 Asian American Christian Sat, 31 May 2008 14:08:42 +0000 http://www.djchuang.com/2008/purpose-driven-network-summit-and-persevering-faith/#comment-2253 props to the P.E.A.C.E plan. it's generating a lot of positive press for the christian community. props to the P.E.A.C.E plan. it’s generating a lot of positive press for the christian community.

]]> By: Erin http://djchuang.com/2008/purpose-driven-network-summit-and-persevering-faith/#comment-2252 Erin Sat, 31 May 2008 04:38:52 +0000 http://www.djchuang.com/2008/purpose-driven-network-summit-and-persevering-faith/#comment-2252 Hello DJ, I've been reading your blog for a long time, and this prompted me to come out and post. There have been heartbreaking scandals, involving both the church and Christianity. There are often times when I wonder how I keep faith. I've been reading some Christian blogs and in a couple of cases, the authors went over to agnosticism/atheism. However, for me, it's as big a part of my identity as my ethnicity, and just as shameful history in my heritage would not make me denounce my Asian roots, scandals in the church shake my faith in humanity, but not in God. As Tony Blair said: "Just because Man does evil does not mean that God is not good." I hold to faith partly because of the promises of the eternal kingdom, for wrong to be made right, but also because I believe in the message of Jesus, both during his lifetime and after the Resurrection. A regular faith community where all the members reach out and genuinely help each other, is also helpful. Unfortunately, a lot of modern church members feel apart from each other. Finally, reading the testimony of other people of faith is encouraging. Thanks to you for keeping this blog and for all you do for others of faith Blessings Erin Hello DJ, I’ve been reading your blog for a long time, and this prompted me to come out and post.

There have been heartbreaking scandals, involving both the church and Christianity. There are often times when I wonder how I keep faith. I’ve been reading some Christian blogs and in a couple of cases, the authors went over to agnosticism/atheism.

However, for me, it’s as big a part of my identity as my ethnicity, and just as shameful history in my heritage would not make me denounce my Asian roots, scandals in the church shake my faith in humanity, but not in God. As Tony Blair said: “Just because Man does evil does not mean that God is not good.”

I hold to faith partly because of the promises of the eternal kingdom, for wrong to be made right, but also because I believe in the message of Jesus, both during his lifetime and after the Resurrection.

A regular faith community where all the members reach out and genuinely help each other, is also helpful. Unfortunately, a lot of modern church members feel apart from each other.

Finally, reading the testimony of other people of faith is encouraging. Thanks to you for keeping this blog and for all you do for others of faith

Blessings
Erin

]]> By: scott http://djchuang.com/2008/purpose-driven-network-summit-and-persevering-faith/#comment-2254 scott Fri, 30 May 2008 13:13:29 +0000 http://www.djchuang.com/2008/purpose-driven-network-summit-and-persevering-faith/#comment-2254 Well said marla and dj. Two of the many things that keep me going... 1.) the promises of God (e.g., 2 Cor 2:14) 2.) regular contact with those who genuinely love and serve the Lord. But thanks be to God, who always leads us in triumphal procession in Christ and through us spreads everywhere the fragrance of the knowledge of him. Well said marla and dj. Two of the many things that keep me going…
1.) the promises of God (e.g., 2 Cor 2:14)
2.) regular contact with those who genuinely love and serve the Lord.

But thanks be to God, who always leads us in triumphal procession in Christ and through us spreads everywhere the fragrance of the knowledge of him.

]]> By: Marla Saunders http://djchuang.com/2008/purpose-driven-network-summit-and-persevering-faith/#comment-2255 Marla Saunders Thu, 29 May 2008 23:59:47 +0000 http://www.djchuang.com/2008/purpose-driven-network-summit-and-persevering-faith/#comment-2255 What keeps me from losing faith? I have seen a handful of genuine Christians in my life: the people out there working Mother Teresa-style, with few rewards and no recognition. They keep my faith strong. Natural graces revealed in the world around me - that keeps me praising. Scandals. Huh? Yes. Scandals. That sense that "this is SO wrong." That innate sense that something is not right tells me that we were created for what IS right - the restoration of all things. Quick list, but interesting thoughts. Thanks for all you do, DJ. What keeps me from losing faith?

I have seen a handful of genuine Christians in my life: the people out there working Mother Teresa-style, with few rewards and no recognition. They keep my faith strong.

Natural graces revealed in the world around me – that keeps me praising.

Scandals. Huh? Yes. Scandals. That sense that “this is SO wrong.” That innate sense that something is not right tells me that we were created for what IS right – the restoration of all things.

Quick list, but interesting thoughts.

Thanks for all you do, DJ.

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