Comments on: does assurance equal certainty? http://djchuang.com/2008/does-assurance-equal-certainty/ / strategist / ideator / Asian American / connector / gamechanger Tue, 22 May 2012 16:57:42 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: solomon li http://djchuang.com/2008/does-assurance-equal-certainty/#comment-2215 solomon li Thu, 01 May 2008 09:14:21 +0000 http://www.djchuang.com/2008/does-assurance-equal-certainty/#comment-2215 hey dj, good catch. the thing is... your friend is right. this is ultimately a battle over the Scriptures and their authority. one cannot equate assurance with certainty because not only does the Bible not do it, it is philosophically erring. the Bible teaches us assurance, not certainty, for only God has certainty. any delving into that realm would bring us to God... in other words, we can't know God as God knows God, otherwise if we did we would be God and we would be certain. i believe you've stumbled upon one of the greatest debates to come yet... that is inerrancy and infallibility of the Scriptures. some may believe it has gone away, but the debate is lurking in the dark depths of the academy and is ready to spring up... even in conservative circles. recently, even the orthodox view of justification was challenged in some reformed circles. it was so big that "christianity today" even did a piece on it. though you may not think you get it, i'm sure more will not only come to light... but will eventually come to our faces as we go out there and talk to people who fail to see the power of the Scriptures because of an errant view of the Bible. good find. hey dj,

good catch. the thing is… your friend is right. this is ultimately a battle over the Scriptures and their authority. one cannot equate assurance with certainty because not only does the Bible not do it, it is philosophically erring. the Bible teaches us assurance, not certainty, for only God has certainty. any delving into that realm would bring us to God… in other words, we can’t know God as God knows God, otherwise if we did we would be God and we would be certain.

i believe you’ve stumbled upon one of the greatest debates to come yet… that is inerrancy and infallibility of the Scriptures. some may believe it has gone away, but the debate is lurking in the dark depths of the academy and is ready to spring up… even in conservative circles.

recently, even the orthodox view of justification was challenged in some reformed circles. it was so big that “christianity today” even did a piece on it.

though you may not think you get it, i’m sure more will not only come to light… but will eventually come to our faces as we go out there and talk to people who fail to see the power of the Scriptures because of an errant view of the Bible.

good find.

]]> By: TooGoodToBTrue http://djchuang.com/2008/does-assurance-equal-certainty/#comment-2219 TooGoodToBTrue Sun, 27 Apr 2008 00:14:00 +0000 http://www.djchuang.com/2008/does-assurance-equal-certainty/#comment-2219 This situation will play itself out over the next several months. Cedarville will be cleansed of the current administration as I predict they will be forced to leave, for the better. There will be a great deal of public scrutiny of 3 or 4 individuals in particular once the truth comes out. The Board of Trustees will have some splaining to do as to the questionable decisions they made in the light of evidence (lack thereof) against Hoffeditz and others. There is obviously a great deal of sycophantic tendencies in lieu of the perks they get for being on the board. Not to say that these people don't mean well, they just are going along with the President, or should I say preparing to sink with the ship. The Admin is praying night and day that this will be settled out of court in order to avoid embarrassment and major legal costs. There is a high price to pay for the type of behavior the Administration has demonstrated. Due to their lust for power and control (as is evidenced by the secret recordings), and the attempt they have made to "shut everyone up by threatening to sue", and their intimidation tactics they have attempted by hiring private detctives, threatening students that disagree, eliminating positions causing financial harm to innocent individuals, harrassment tactics that I can't mention here, etc., they will learn a very valuble lesson. Mark my words on this one. This will come to pass and justice will be served. This situation will play itself out over the next several months. Cedarville will be cleansed of the current administration as I predict they will be forced to leave, for the better. There will be a great deal of public scrutiny of 3 or 4 individuals in particular once the truth comes out. The Board of Trustees will have some splaining to do as to the questionable decisions they made in the light of evidence (lack thereof) against Hoffeditz and others. There is obviously a great deal of sycophantic tendencies in lieu of the perks they get for being on the board. Not to say that these people don’t mean well, they just are going along with the President, or should I say preparing to sink with the ship. The Admin is praying night and day that this will be settled out of court in order to avoid embarrassment and major legal costs. There is a high price to pay for the type of behavior the Administration has demonstrated. Due to their lust for power and control (as is evidenced by the secret recordings), and the attempt they have made to “shut everyone up by threatening to sue”, and their intimidation tactics they have attempted by hiring private detctives, threatening students that disagree, eliminating positions causing financial harm to innocent individuals, harrassment tactics that I can’t mention here, etc., they will learn a very valuble lesson.

Mark my words on this one. This will come to pass and justice will be served.

]]> By: djchuang http://djchuang.com/2008/does-assurance-equal-certainty/#comment-2217 djchuang Thu, 24 Apr 2008 17:00:59 +0000 http://www.djchuang.com/2008/does-assurance-equal-certainty/#comment-2217 Kinsen, well, I'm not sure if that means you would or wouldn't be a prof at Cedarville then. I tried reading the situation, and I got lost in the verbiage and couldn't figure that out. Joey, there's lots of little known facts that you might not know, b/c I haven't blogged about it all yet. I've sometimes said I'm transparent, but haven't said I'm exhaustively on my disclosures. :) Kinsen, well, I’m not sure if that means you would or wouldn’t be a prof at Cedarville then. I tried reading the situation, and I got lost in the verbiage and couldn’t figure that out.

Joey, there’s lots of little known facts that you might not know, b/c I haven’t blogged about it all yet. I’ve sometimes said I’m transparent, but haven’t said I’m exhaustively on my disclosures. :)

]]> By: Kinsen http://djchuang.com/2008/does-assurance-equal-certainty/#comment-2216 Kinsen Thu, 24 Apr 2008 15:35:26 +0000 http://www.djchuang.com/2008/does-assurance-equal-certainty/#comment-2216 I don't think assurance equals certainty. We are called to live by faith... yet if we are certain of something, then why would we need faith? I don’t think assurance equals certainty. We are called to live by faith… yet if we are certain of something, then why would we need faith?

]]> By: Joey Chen http://djchuang.com/2008/does-assurance-equal-certainty/#comment-2218 Joey Chen Thu, 24 Apr 2008 06:27:58 +0000 http://www.djchuang.com/2008/does-assurance-equal-certainty/#comment-2218 been reading up on this since last year. I went to Cedarville and God used Hoffeditz in powerful ways in both my life as a follower of Christ and as a pastor now. Never knew you were in the dorms with him =) been reading up on this since last year. I went to Cedarville and God used Hoffeditz in powerful ways in both my life as a follower of Christ and as a pastor now. Never knew you were in the dorms with him =)

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